tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26703962.post1760604100395068389..comments2023-10-11T06:49:35.740-07:00Comments on piccalilli: F-Bombs Away!Christine Fletcherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17350760019997430843noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26703962.post-37501828109331819052010-05-22T10:24:26.428-07:002010-05-22T10:24:26.428-07:00I agree with mi's point about writing the firs...I agree with mi's point about writing the first draft the way it comes, and then see how it reads.<br /><a href="http://www.bpojobsathome.com" rel="nofollow"> home jobs india </a>prashanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04583385332262124749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26703962.post-91380637996014026132010-05-22T09:38:08.393-07:002010-05-22T09:38:08.393-07:00Wow! Fantastic post. It deserves to go viral on ...Wow! <i>Fantastic</i> post. It deserves to go viral on the author circuit.<br />(The security verification words on the comment page has made me a better scrabble player)Walter Rowntreenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26703962.post-14254591973986781672010-05-17T13:40:07.411-07:002010-05-17T13:40:07.411-07:00Thanks for the TV perspective, Sally! (One thing a...Thanks for the TV perspective, Sally! (One thing about books--we don't have the FCC listening in, at least.)Christine Fletcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17350760019997430843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26703962.post-77697949228189885712010-05-17T10:54:59.503-07:002010-05-17T10:54:59.503-07:00In television (which I also write for) there are w...In television (which I also write for) there are words you can use at 10 PM that you can't use at 8 PM. Likewise for YA. Kinda depends on the age you're writing for. If it's low-end YA, for tweens & up to 14 year olds, the "f" bomb doesn't ever really get dropped. Over 14? Bombs away...if - as you correctly point out - it's supported by the character and the world and not just there to convey toughness and coolness. But you gotta write whatever comes out in the first draft and THEN go back & fix. To censor in that first flush of "gotta get it down" is counterproductive.Sally Nemethhttp://www.sallynemeth.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26703962.post-47000368794028973742010-05-17T08:00:27.812-07:002010-05-17T08:00:27.812-07:00Hi, Anon! I agree, when authors put in stuff just ...Hi, Anon! I agree, when authors put in stuff just because they think "that's what teenagers do," the reader can always tell that the characters aren't genuine. And it's insulting to teens.<br /><br />I read Shannon Hale's post on book banning--thanks for pointing it out! I always thought it was nuts that in my Catholic all-girls' high school we read a lot of books that were banned in the public schools. What are these pro-banning people so afraid of? I never understood it. Still don't.Christine Fletcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17350760019997430843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26703962.post-11949636723479222962010-05-16T21:24:13.037-07:002010-05-16T21:24:13.037-07:00Shannon Hale recently did a post on banning books....Shannon Hale recently did a post on banning books. It's crazy what books parents want banned!<br /><br /><br />I love your insightful post! It's so annoying when authors put lots of swearing, or sex, or drugs, into books to make it seem like they are real teenagers. It's like they're saying that's all that teens do, or that all teens do that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26703962.post-87432624438701262912010-05-16T14:42:44.075-07:002010-05-16T14:42:44.075-07:00Lisa--knowing your audience is always a good thing...Lisa--knowing your audience is always a good thing! I'm willing to bet that most people don't think about this until their editors point it out to them.Christine Fletcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17350760019997430843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26703962.post-55718370497371274402010-05-16T14:39:28.260-07:002010-05-16T14:39:28.260-07:00mi--you're welcome! As I mentioned above, I th...mi--you're welcome! As I mentioned above, I think your approach is great--let the first draft rip, the way it comes to you. Time enough later to go back and polish.Christine Fletcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17350760019997430843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26703962.post-61935490891061921952010-05-16T10:58:27.894-07:002010-05-16T10:58:27.894-07:00I love how you've detailed your learning curve...I love how you've detailed your learning curve on showing character. I don't use a whole lot of cussing in my books, because I realize that these particular stories will probably be popular with the conservative crowd. There are a few words that might get them banned by the strictest people, but no f-bombs. In another book, things might be different.Lisa Nowakhttp://lisanowak.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26703962.post-20455411533249716162010-05-13T23:10:27.912-07:002010-05-13T23:10:27.912-07:00christine, your post brings up points i never even...christine, your post brings up points i never even thought of. especially that of using the swear words to convey who your character is as opposed to showing the reader through action and dialogue.<br />it's definitely something i'm going to keep in mind when i go in to do my edit.<br />thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences!mihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12846929965982469395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26703962.post-48322530537136661012010-05-13T22:08:28.883-07:002010-05-13T22:08:28.883-07:00Melissa, it took me a long time to figure out how ...Melissa, it took me a long time to figure out how to show character, rather than tell. The swearing was probably my first big lesson in that. And I didn't figure that out until the 3rd or 4th draft of my first novel. I don't learn fast, but I do learn eventually. :)<br /><br />That said, lots of writers use swearing appropriately, and for great reasons. I agree with mi's point about writing the first draft the way it comes, and then see how it reads.Christine Fletcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17350760019997430843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26703962.post-10466584601969475712010-05-13T12:55:57.343-07:002010-05-13T12:55:57.343-07:00Excellent post, Christine! I have struggled with s...Excellent post, Christine! I have struggled with some cussing in my novels, too, as I always add a bit. But then I think of Clive Cussler's whose characters don't cuss at all, yet you know they are tough, no holds barred characters. It's a great exercise in showing who your characters are vs. telling, I suppose. :-)Melissa Amateishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16086267508858187716noreply@blogger.com